I am now (beginning with Black Sabbath 1981-11-19 Canadian Assault) including the results of a (very) basic test for lossiness in the download bundle (.rar file). Specifically, I am using Traders Little Helper (TLH) to test for CDDA vs. MPEG. This is included as a screenshot file, named “TLH test.png”.

For bootlegs where I physically own the actual bootleg (whether CD or CD-R), I rip directly to FLAC5, and do not in anyway modify the transferred recording. However, we all know that some bootlegs are lossy sourced.

I am making this change (the addition of the TLH screenshot) primarily so that I, myself, can have some sense of how likely the bootleg is to be truly lossless. Also, perhaps others will wish to be aware of this information.

I know that this is an extremely basic test only–not as good as a spectral analysis (or whatever else)ā€¦ But hopefully this is of some value, compared to not providing any information on lossless vs. lossiness of each bootleg.

On a related note: I have a number of Ian Gillan-era Black Sabbath (1983-1984) commerical bootlegs that I am beginning to post. It is disappointing that most (all?) of these bootlegs are lossy šŸ™

3 thoughts on “FYI…

  1. Thanks very much for all the uploads and for your thoughts and info. It is appreciated.

    I tend to believe that at least Metal Sword, Lost and Found and Shades are probably just one person each – people who download whatever lossy or lossless version of a show they from from the internet, burn it to 100 or 200 CDRs, create artwork and sell the stuff. Those 3 in particular don’t seem to care if their sources are lossless or lossy.

    What’s particularly annoying for me about lossy-sourced bootlegs (like the Sabbath Gillan era ones you mentioned) is the fact that 95% of those shows (and actually 100% of the Gillen era ones) have been available in lossless quality for many years. Circulating Sabbath recordings from 1969 to 1987 have almost all been uploaded on Dimeadozen years ago, most of them from tape sources and lossless. Let me know in case you’re interested in any of those.

    There are a few different cases though: cases where a commercial bootleg (usually silver, not CDR) sounds significantly better than any other copy of the same show, yet appears lossy when checked in spectral view. “Last Gig with Ray” and “To do or Die” are cases in point. Those, I believe, are probably not MP3-sourced, but have likely been denoised, which often produces artifacts similar to those caused by lossy format ancestry. (The same might of course be true for some of those bootlegs where the same show is circulating with equal or better sound and in lossless quality.)

  2. More Purple Rainbow Sabbath always welcome…Roger Glover produced Judas Priest’s Sin After Sin, so I’d even consider 70’s Priest

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